December 2011 Update of THE GREAT DEPRESSION of DEBT

“The Great Depression of Debt” is a hardcover updated edition of “The Second Great Depression, Starting 2007, Ending 2020.”  “The Great Depression of Debt” can be purchased at most bookstores or at Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Great-Depression-Debt-Survival-Techniques/dp/0470423714

THIS WILL BE MY LAST BLOG UPDATE! 

I will leave this site up a few more weeks for comments. But I remarked several times that I didn’t want to just be a score keeper as our economy goes into a depression, which I now believe is irreversible.  In the past, I tried to get some enthusiasm going for a boycott on Chinese goods to bring back jobs to the U.S., but I failed.  I tried to get some interest on tariffs on Chinese goods; but not only are we not putting on any tariffs, the currency imbalance between the Chinese currency and the dollar remains almost as strong as ever.  I tried to get some massive green energy program going to bring us out of this jobs problem, but the taxes required to finance this would come from the wealthy (or, as the Republicans like to call them, the “job creators”).  And that is apparently a no-no since, per “Americans for Tax Reform,” 41 senators and more than 235 House members have pledged in writing to oppose all tax increases.  So we (our Congress) feel that the wealthy were not wealthy enough thirty years ago, and we want them to become even MORE disproportionately wealthy since all the tax changes that enabled the current growth of wealth are still in place.

HOW ARE MY BOOK’S PREDICTIONS DOING?

I will use this last update to look at where I think our economy and the stock market will be going in the next year or two.  I will use “The Great Depression of Debt,” Chapter 5, (“What This Depression Will Be Like”) for relative baseline quotes, both to show how well my predictions are going and what I may have missed.

“The government will either have to raise taxes or borrow even more money to stay solvent.  If the government tries to reduce spending by shrinking the size of the government bureaucracy, the resultant increase of people out of work will also slow the economy.”  Well, we are choosing the latter – austerity is the game we are about to play.  In 1937 we tried a similar austerity plan, and unemployment jumped from 14.7% in 1937 to 19.0% in 1938.

“Companies have been optimizing bottom lines rather than investing for future businesses…Companies will respond to any slowdown with layoffs to lower their expenses, and they will implement price increases in an attempt to maintain profits (and their executive salaries).”  We are seeing that even with a slow economy, inflation is running at a 3.5% rate.  There is no reason prices will not continue to rise, and the Fed’s actions on money creation is just going to exacerbate inflation. 

“The number of people giving up on making house payments is skyrocketing…banks have been forced to foreclose on homes and sell them, causing a glut of homes on the market and a deflation of home prices.”  Many experts, such as Robert Shiller, believe that home prices may drop another 25%.  This will cause even more homeowners to be underwater on their mortgages, and more people will stop making home payments.  This will drive additional foreclosed homes on the market.  This problem is a long way from being over and will continue to be drag on the economy.  When home prices drop, even people not in danger of losing their homes begin to reign in their spending because they feel poorer.

“President Bush and Israel may decide to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities before Bush leaves office.”  Well, Bush didn’t do this.  But bombing these facilities is certainly becoming closer to being a reality and this would definitely upset the balance in the Middle East and in world markets!

“The birth rate will go to zero…No one will want to bring a child into the very tenuous economy that will be gripping the United States.”  Well, it hasn’t got down to zero yet.  But the births in 2007 were 4.3 million, 2008: 4.2 million, 2009: 4.1 million, and 2010: 4.0 million.

“By 2013, people in the United States will have given up.  Unemployment will be over 15%, and the stock market will be down over 60% from its early 2008 price level…The debt problem will slowly diminish because, with inflated dollars, both the consumer debt and the government debt will seem smaller, and they will be paid down with dollars worth far less than they are now.”  I still stand by these predictions.

“There will be cries to go back to the gold-backed dollar.  Young people will rebel en masse against the debt that is being left them…Environmental concerns will take a back seat to getting industry running.  The exception will be the heavy government support for renewable energy sources.”  I was doing well until that last sentence!

“Protest groups will have a new and powerful means to rally forces against the government.  The internet will be used to coordinate protest marches and other mischief.”  We have yet to see the full power of this.  Move-on is planning to back people running for government to nullify the effect of the Tea Party.  And Occupy Wall Street is certainly calling attention to the fact that many in our country feel that the government is being run for the betterment of the rich and powerful with little concern for the average person.

WHAT DID I MISS?

1)      The Euro Crisis

When I wrote my book there were many that were saying that people should abandon the dollar and flee to the Euro.  Now, people are fleeing the Euro.  And this crisis will not end gently.  Sometime in 2012, the Euro countries will no longer include Greece or Italy!  And U.S. banks and others are going to be hit badly.

2)      The Tea Party

The Tea Party’s success in stopping any new taxes is going to make the depression far worse than it would have been otherwise.  They have taken away a valid option for the economy and stifled any hope of compromise.

3)      Gold!  My suggestion on being out of the market and buying TIPS was quite good, but nothing like the price rise of gold.

WHAT TO MONITOR

1)      Will unemployment benefits be extended and the tax holiday regards social security withholding be continued?  If not, Roubini, the chairman of Roubini Global Economics, predicts the “fiscal drag will be $350 billion, 2.3% of GDP,” in 2012.  I actually think that Roubini is being optimistic, which is unlike “Dr. Doom!”

2)      Can Bernanke pull a miracle out of his hat?  The Fed, unlike Congress, is trying to fight the coming depression.  QE3 may include the Fed buying problematic mortgage backed securities from the banks in an attempt to free up money for new mortgages.  But I believe that this will be too little too late.

3)      Is President Obama willing to risk impeachment by going around Congress to spend on additional stimulus?  The president could reference some esoteric emergency regulation that would enable him to spend for the well-being of the economy.  But he would have to do a massive stimulus this late in the game, and the resulting jobs must be self-sustaining, not things like road paving.

4)      The elections.  President Obama will likely be reelected NOT because he has been a good President but because the Republican candidates are so problematic!  The real question is whether our economy is so sick by then that people will realize that “the just say no” Congress people should be kicked out and replaced by people willing/able to think and compromise.

THANKS TO ALL

Thanks to all of you who have purchased my books or have been following this blog.  Good luck to all of you in the coming years.  With a little luck and a lot of monitoring of personal expenses, many will get through this depression with a limited amount of hurt.  We as a country will survive; but we will come out of this a poorer and more humble nation!

Warren Brussee

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27 Responses to “December 2011 Update of THE GREAT DEPRESSION of DEBT”

  1. Greg Says:

    Warren–

    I would beg you to please reconsider your decision to end this blog!!!

    This is one of the main places I go for reasonable discussion about unfolding issues in the economy and the world. You and many of your readers always provide clear and insightful analysis of situations. I feel as if I have learned a great deal from you and the others here.

    If you continue to be right, and the catastrophic problems can’t be avoided any longer, then your voice will be an essential one in the coming months.

    I understand that you must certainly have other commitments upon which to use your time, and that you may feel as if you have done all you could through this avenue to affect change. However, from my perspective, this blog in itself is an equally important use of your limited time.

    In any event, if you do go forward with your decision to close this blog, I will be sad and frustrated, but will, of course, wish you the best, and offer a hearty, enthusiastic and sincere “Thank You!”

    -Greg Bravo

  2. Art Schultz Says:

    Can’t say it any better then Greg.Please reconsider,even a once a month update.You have no idea how much your suggestion’s have helped me and SAVED me!

  3. Nalu Girl Says:

    I agree, please don’t stop this blog. I have followed you since you were blogging on Amazon, and even if I don’t comment often, I find you a sane and reasonable voice as opposed to many others who seem to get fixated on one cause or one panacea. You approach our problems with logic as well as emotion, something that many do not do.
    I appreciate the time and effort you have devoted to this, and wish you well in the future.

  4. Bob Arkell Says:

    Warren,

    You just don’t see things the way Rush and Glen do. And I’m starting to agree with you almost 50% of the time. LOL.

    Seriously, we will miss you even if we are of a different political bent. Your book got me to buy gold & silver and it has had a significant effect on my finances. Bless you!

    I will miss reading your analysis of the current economic situation.
    It is easier to listen to a liberal that you respect. Then again you can always write another book for me to buy.

    And maybe you will finally be listened to by those who have the power to make decisions, maybe not. At the very least you will and have helped those of us who have voices lost in the woods.

    God bless you and your family!

    Bob

  5. Curtis Says:

    Hello Warren

    Thank you for your updates. I wish you the best. I also hope you are able to take a good break with your artwork. Hopefully it will give a happier focus.

    One question: Have you seen the John Mauldin web site?

    http://www.johnmauldin.com.

    Can you let me know what you think of the information given?

    Thanks

  6. Robert Says:

    Warren
    I hope you reconsider.
    I found your book in the library a nice little while before the last crash happened. I read it and like many books I didn’t make much of it.
    Then things began to happen and something clicked in my mind. I got your book again and re-read it. Thanks to you I got all my retirement funds into fairly safe havens. I even tried telling those around me what you predicted and told them where to find your book. Most didn’t listen and saw their retirement funds shrink and for most still not recovered.
    I read your blog here for my own selfish reasons. Your insight had pull my fat out of the fire before and by reading your writings I am hoping to keep it out.
    If you don’t continue the blog then all will understand. Thank you for all you’ve done. May all you do be successful.

  7. Way Up North Says:

    Thank you for all you have done Warren. You have done fantastic work keeping this going for so long. I know it is a lot of work. Your book and this blog has been an important input to my decision making and I have even veered a little to the left reading your thoughts. I will miss my semi-monhtly fix.

  8. Mats Says:

    Dear Warren, I have with interest followed your writings here from Sweden. I appreciate the efforts you have made and the time spent on sharing your insights.
    While I hope you will reconsider your intent to end this, I wish you all best in whatever you do hereafter.
    Thank you!!!

  9. ulev Says:

    Warren,
    It has been a long and sometimes difficult road. The presence of your book as well as your blog has given opportunity for disparate views to be expressed,
    expounded upon and argued for the betterment of all engaged.
    We all have gained a better understanding of our and our countries predicament. For better or worse, we proceed thru the most difficult times ahead with the vision provided by you that may allow for some of us who can, to survive the coming national/global armageddon, brought on by no less than our elected officials on both sides of the aisle…..Vladimir Putin must be smiling, as the communist model of governing by the ‘proletariat’ is gaining more and more favor in so called western countries….. too bad it is as corrupt as any other…

    Again, thank you for your efforts in attempting to stem the tide,
    until we meet again…..

  10. RobM Says:

    Thank you for this blog. I learned a lot and I wish you well.

  11. Ronald G. Payne Says:

    Warren,
    I’m disappointed to learn that we’ll not have your insights to feed our minds. I do understand, though, when you say that you don’t want to narrate the further decline of our economy/country. You’ve done a really good job and you will be missed. Hope you will spend the time you’ve reclaimed at the easel creating images with your brushes that engage the way your words/thoughts have done.

  12. Brian F Says:

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. They were great. Best of luck.

  13. eloquence Says:

    Estimado Warren,

    Muchas gracias por toda la valiosisima información en este blog y en sus libros. Sus libros son la mejor inversión que he hecho en los últimos años y me han servido enormemente.

    Le deseo mucho exito en todos sus proyectos personales. Paz y felicidad por siempre.

  14. Mike S. Says:

    Warren,

    Thank you for educating us all, sharing your talents and skills, and being a patriot. God Bless you and your family

    Mike

  15. Goshdig Says:

    Thank you for being such a great teacher! I think you have taught all of us to discount generalizations and unsupported facts.

    Until I discovered you on Amazon I was skeptical of most financial books and blogs. I never felt you were politically or financially motivated but rather concerned about educating readers to make better decisions.

    Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!!

  16. Matt S Says:

    Warren,

    It’s been a pleasure following this blog for 3 years now. It has been a place of sane dialogue around the problems we face. I will miss it as a resource but wish you all the best.

    Matt S.

  17. Ryan Says:

    Please reconsider! At least through 2012/2013 when your predictions of a ‘bottom’ occur.

    Even if your blog updates are once a month, or once a quarter, your insights and data analysis are greatly appreciated.

    If this really is your last blog post, I wish you the best and thank you (since 2006, when I discovered your book / amazon blog)!

  18. Matti K. Says:

    Greetings from Finland, Warren!

    I have been enthusiastically reading your blog. You have a wise analytical approach in your text, which has been a good base for my own conclusions.

    In my opinion, the global economical situation is getting more interesting by the day, and therefore I would like you to keep on blogging.

    In any case, I will point you a big thank you, and I wish everything good for you.

    //Matti

  19. Copeycetic Says:

    Warren,

    Thanks so much for your keen insights into the market. As the son of a Bell Labs engineer, I great appreciate your dispassionate, fact-based, systemic analysis of the enormous problems we’re facing. Like the others, i sure do wish you’d reconsider posting updates, even if monthly or quarterly. I agree with you its getting ready to ‘hit-the-fan’ and having your input during these next few years would be very welcome indeed. If not, please know how much i appreciate all your hard work in posting updates thru the years.

  20. Bill Hensler Says:

    Well, the true fiscal crisis didn’t happen until 2008. We’re in a “zombie” economy, it’s neither living nor dead. The “Great Depression of Debt” has not hit yet Just wait until next year or the year after or the year after, you’ll see.

    It’s not quite true that tax increases have been stopped. The individual states vary and some have gone in a hog-wild tax and spending spree. It was fully admitted in the 2011 elections that many tax and spend measures were greated with open arms by the public.

    Warren does not know about defense advances. Right now it’s fully admitted that the USAF/USN have a cruise missile that has fully independant sub-munitions and this was used to extreme success in Libya. Also, the USA has very advanced weapons system that might be presently used against the Iranian nuclear weapons facilities. It’s rather interesting that every large Iranian weapons facility explodes with large loss of life and not one clue can be found. There are no craters from bombs or cruise missiles. Could 747 aircraft armed with lasers be flying out of Diego Garcia and attacking Iranian nuclear sites. If so the attacks could be done at will and nothing the Iranians can do will stop the attacks.

    The Federal Reserve bailed out Europe and the dollar has turned into defacto world currency. China may not like it but the fact is they bought into the deal that they will work like dogs because few things are worse than a world wide depression. Will China dominate the world? Perhaps, but that will take at least 10 to 20 years. Who knows?

    A little cottage industry exists of Glenn Becks, Rush Limbaughs, and hundreds of other people who have all forecasted the end-of-the-world and have been wrong. Remember that cult back in ’97 that built web pages and killed themselves to meet the aliens? that was good for a laugh. While we all make fun of the Preacher who said the world was going to end in May of 2011 the fact of the matter is we had some economic problems in 2008. But what is the biggest problem facing America in 2012? It’s obesity. Obesity is hardly a problem of a failing economy.

    The world will continue in one shape or form. And it will not be as bad as you think.

    Good luck in the future.

  21. Wayne Freeman Says:

    Warren, thank you for your insights over the past several years. I’ll miss checking in with you twice a month.

    I won’t implore you to continue, I understand when enough is enough.

    One thing, though, if you choose to reply to any of our final comments, I wish you would explain one of the intriguing quotes from your book that you selected for your last post.

    You said, “By 2013, people in the United States will have given up.”

    What do you mean by “given up”, what form do you see “giving up” taking, and what do you see as the ramifications? To me, it means apathy, not riots and/or revolution.

    Thanks again, and all the best in your painting.

  22. dgoddard Says:

    Warren: I held you up to a friend last week as an example of what thorough, objective, insightful economic analysis looks like when separated from a driving financial motive to sell itself. This made your writing a rare treat all these years.

    Thank you.

    What about downshifting to a quarterly review and outlook?

  23. Tom Says:

    Employers only add 120,000 jobs and the “unemployment” rate drops 0.5%…anyone else consider all government data COMPLETELY fabricated?

    • Doug Fritz Says:

      Yes the numbers do not add up at all. I can only assume that many more have dropped from the ranks and are no longer looking for work.

  24. WS Says:

    This is a very sobering interview. Well worth a listen, imo.

    http://www.financialsense.com/financial-sense-newshour/guest-expert/2011/12/01/ann-barnhardt/entire-futures-options-market-destroyed-by-mf-global-collapse

    • ulev Says:

      WS as a final ‘goodbye’ response….
      I read your link with interest and found that I agreed with mostly all that was put forth by Ann Barnhardt…except the Obama marxist, socialist crap….Most who post these comments have never been exposed to the effects of TRUE marxist/leninist preachings..My Family and I have….The use of these terms by the historically/politically naive is intended solely for it’s FEAR quotient and solely to place blame on others….I could say very much the same about the bush REGIME who removed most of the regulations on wall street being directly influenced by HENCHMEN such as….Hank Paulson….of…who else, Goldman Sachs…these politically expedient, Socially IRRESPONSIBLE actions placed US where we are today……. were they Marxist ???

      Sobering Yes, Factual…..not quite..

      GOSH…I’ll will surely miss this opportunity for intelligent discourse…

  25. bluegrass gal Says:

    Thanks, Warren. I’ve learned a great deal from you as well as those who’ve commented over the years. Things will be a bit darker without you – please don’t go!

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